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| Author: | Griffin [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Capital Gatling Lasers |
Radiation and Mining type gatling lasers! They are, as the title hints at, Capital ship only. Basically, they're upgraded Point Defenses that are made from BP's dropped from Green Battleships, and work the same way as CAL's and the research BP's. However, seeing as there are two damage types, there will be two different research BP's: Radiation Gatling Laser Core Research and Mining Gatling Laser Core Research. Why is this needed? Capital ship weapons all have long range and high recoil. The Capital Gatling Lasers fill in this gap by having the opposite of long range and high recoil. All Capital Gatling Lasers will have a recoil of .2, as well as follow the nomenclature and techs of the CAL family. Here are two examples: Radiation Capital Gatling Laser Core T13 Size: 35 Recoil: .2 Elec: 50 Range: 300 Damage: fit around those numbers Radiation Damage Capital ship only Advanced Mining Capital Gatling Laser T20 Size: 50 Recoil: .2 Elec: 75 Range: 255 Damage: fit around those numbers Mining Damage Capital ship only |
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| Author: | The Salty One [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Capital gattling lasers are the equivalent of a heavy weight boxer tickling you. |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
The Salty One wrote: Capital gattling lasers are the equivalent of a heavy weight boxer tickling you. These will have good DPS seeing as how they are hull locked, are larger, and take more elec than regular Point Defenses. They will have more DPS then the CAL line. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Griffin wrote: The Salty One wrote: Capital gattling lasers are the equivalent of a heavy weight boxer tickling you. These will have good DPS seeing as how they are hull locked, are larger, and take more elec than regular Point Defenses. They will have more DPS then the CAL line. and terrible dph so that anything with soak can shred that gunner's dps. |
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| Author: | s_m_w [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Very few things actually have soak. I don't know. Really big point defenses don't make sense to me, point defenses are designed to take down small targets like missiles or fighters after all. Why do you want high RoF capital weapons? |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Helps fight stealthier targets, taking down multiple small targets such as clops, and applying debuffs to large amounts of targets. Not to mention that these weapons can sacrifice range for more damage. |
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| Author: | Cygnus [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Remember that these aren't point defences, they're gatling lasers. This means they only shoot forewards. Unfortunately, I fail to see how that will accomplish what you're talking about, since turning your whole ship will almost certainly waste more time than would be lost just clicking and firing. It would be nice if PD weapons were changed to physical damage though, to make them more useful at what they do. |
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| Author: | The Salty One [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Cygnus wrote: Remember that these aren't point defences, they're gatling lasers. This means they only shoot forewards. Unfortunately, I fail to see how that will accomplish what you're talking about, since turning your whole ship will almost certainly waste more time than would be lost just clicking and firing. It would be nice if PD weapons were changed to physical damage though, to make them more useful at what they do. Enter a whole new generation of broken sniper weapons |
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| Author: | Cygnus [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Um...make them capital only, maybe? And make them have no crit chance at all. |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Cygnus wrote: Remember that these aren't point defences, they're gatling lasers. This means they only shoot forewards. Unfortunately, I fail to see how that will accomplish what you're talking about, since turning your whole ship will almost certainly waste more time than would be lost just clicking and firing. It would be nice if PD weapons were changed to physical damage though, to make them more useful at what they do. I chose gatling laser name because point defense sounds not so great. Technically it is a PD. |
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| Author: | anilv [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Cygnus wrote: Um...make them capital only, maybe? And make them have no crit chance at all. I don't think it's possible to modify an individual weapon's crit chance... |
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| Author: | Cygnus [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Well, we already have mods that only work when the weapon is actively being used, yes?(dynamic, for example) So I can't imagine it would be that hard to make a weapon that reduces crit chance by 100% while it's being used. |
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| Author: | kingwayne30 [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Why would these smaller lasers do more dps? I think the bigger guns should do much more damage or these or the CAL series should get a grem and if this one did, nerf the damage below CAL. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
The idea is: Capital Arma Laser has 1000 DPS, 1000 Range, 3000 Elect, 1.0 Recoil, 400 size. Capital Gatling Laser has 1000 DPS, 650 Range, 1500 Elect, 0.5 Recoil, 260 size. Both are 360 degree tracking and requires a Capital Ship to use. |
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| Author: | Cygnus [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Capital Gatling Lasers |
Max235 wrote: The idea is: Capital Arma Laser has 1000 DPS, 1000 Range, 3000 Elect, 1.0 Recoil, 400 size. Capital Gatling Laser has 1000 DPS, 650 Range, 1500 Elect, 0.5 Recoil, 260 size. Both are 360 degree tracking and requires a Capital Ship to use. Quote: They will have more DPS then the CAL line. ...eh? Please read the thread before posting, it helps. That said, I really cannot agree with the main idea. Point defences are, ostensibly, for shooting down small agile targets such as missiles and fighters. Making a mining point defence is practically pointless at this, seeing how all missiles share a massive resistance to mining, and all light fighters also have this resistance. |
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