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Author:  tonal [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  sniper guide
please could we have a sniper guide for around level 1.5 k


things have changed so much !

what ship, augs , weps, overloaders ect

thanks tonal
Author:  shawn_mccall [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guild
Guild is a form of union. You need a guide. As far as sniper guide though: Buy a Juju, aug it shittily, solo ubers.
Author:  tonal [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
opps stupid htc phone ......
Author:  shawn_mccall [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
Its a really easy class though, with a Juju augged Qa 2 Zeus+ you can solo UZ ubers. You should have no problems with it.
Author:  ninide12 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
nah if ur skilled enough better aug setup is Z+ greener sniper mast/AoSS

u honestly dont need exta shields to kill, but range helps alot
Author:  shawn_mccall [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
ninide12 wrote:
nah if ur skilled enough better aug setup is Z+ greener sniper mast/AoSS

u honestly dont need exta shields to kill, but range helps alot




Sniper requires no skill... And honestly thats not a better setup "if ur skilled enough" its just another one of the crap setups that allows anyone with a mind to solo ubers without an ounce of skill, I know, I have been abusing sniper for that since the changes.
Author:  Lolwut? [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
shawn_mccall wrote:
ninide12 wrote:
nah if ur skilled enough better aug setup is Z+ greener sniper mast/AoSS

u honestly dont need exta shields to kill, but range helps alot




Sniper requires no skill... And honestly thats not a better setup "if ur skilled enough" its just another one of the crap setups that allows anyone with a mind to solo ubers without an ounce of skill, I know, I have been abusing sniper for that since the changes.


Qa, Greener, Z+ has worked for me as a noob until my slightly- less- noobier state I'm at now, but I'm shooting for CaL, AoSS, AoSS.

I'd like to come up with a snappy retort to your comment on Snipers, and I only have the following:
For normal levelling, sniper is both difficult and easy. Difficult in that as a noob, or just in general, you don't tank nearly as much as other classes of the same level. You have to make sure the AI don't get too close, analyze AI behavior to determine if they'll come on a close enough pass to get to you in time, choose a target that will stay in range, or lure them at you with a fast- shooting weapon with a lot of visibility. Hell, in many Red Wattage rooms with 8 of the buggers, it's a lot harder than any uber I've ever done in that I have to take the trajectories of 8 very fast AI into equation while firing at a target. I like to imagine it as being a submarine commander, you don't want to do anything before you're completely sure of what you're doing and what's happening around you before you actually start shooting.

However, for Ubers, I've found myself doing nothing but either sitting and waiting for SA to gain before raping the boss, or just using superior range and damage to kill it.
Author:  shawn_mccall [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
Lolwut? wrote:
shawn_mccall wrote:
ninide12 wrote:
nah if ur skilled enough better aug setup is Z+ greener sniper mast/AoSS

u honestly dont need exta shields to kill, but range helps alot




Sniper requires no skill... And honestly thats not a better setup "if ur skilled enough" its just another one of the crap setups that allows anyone with a mind to solo ubers without an ounce of skill, I know, I have been abusing sniper for that since the changes.


Qa, Greener, Z+ has worked for me as a noob until my slightly- less- noobier state I'm at now, but I'm shooting for CaL, AoSS, AoSS.

I'd like to come up with a snappy retort to your comment on Snipers, and I only have the following:
For normal levelling, sniper is both difficult and easy. Difficult in that as a noob, or just in general, you don't tank nearly as much as other classes of the same level. You have to make sure the AI don't get too close, analyze AI behavior to determine if they'll come on a close enough pass to get to you in time, choose a target that will stay in range, or lure them at you with a fast- shooting weapon with a lot of visibility. Hell, in many Red Wattage rooms with 8 of the buggers, it's a lot harder than any uber I've ever done in that I have to take the trajectories of 8 very fast AI into equation while firing at a target. I like to imagine it as being a submarine commander, you don't want to do anything before you're completely sure of what you're doing and what's happening around you before you actually start shooting.

However, for Ubers, I've found myself doing nothing but either sitting and waiting for SA to gain before raping the boss, or just using superior range and damage to kill it.



You misunderstand me kind sir. Its not that snipers have no skill, it's that the class doesn't require it as much. There are snipers who I have fought that think outside the box(wex) or are just freakin' amazing(Doman) that are impossible to kill because they apply vast amounts of skill where none is needed. Seriously, try to fight Doman, its the closest a colo party has taken me to rage quitting. Every time you think you're about to kill him he pulls out some sort of instant win card and annihilates you.
Author:  Lolwut? [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
I agree. There are plenty of skill- less snipers who do nothing but sit and spam spacebar, and are driven purely by credits.

Then there are the noobier snipers who actually have to develop skill. And then again, there are the snipers who not only have a lot of credits but immense skill as well.
Author:  blacker2359 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
Lolwut? wrote:
shawn_mccall wrote:
ninide12 wrote:
nah if ur skilled enough better aug setup is Z+ greener sniper mast/AoSS

u honestly dont need exta shields to kill, but range helps alot




Sniper requires no skill... And honestly thats not a better setup "if ur skilled enough" its just another one of the crap setups that allows anyone with a mind to solo ubers without an ounce of skill, I know, I have been abusing sniper for that since the changes.


Qa, Greener, Z+ has worked for me as a noob until my slightly- less- noobier state I'm at now, but I'm shooting for CaL, AoSS, AoSS.

I'd like to come up with a snappy retort to your comment on Snipers, and I only have the following:
For normal levelling, sniper is both difficult and easy. Difficult in that as a noob, or just in general, you don't tank nearly as much as other classes of the same level. You have to make sure the AI don't get too close, analyze AI behavior to determine if they'll come on a close enough pass to get to you in time, choose a target that will stay in range, or lure them at you with a fast- shooting weapon with a lot of visibility. Hell, in many Red Wattage rooms with 8 of the buggers, it's a lot harder than any uber I've ever done in that I have to take the trajectories of 8 very fast AI into equation while firing at a target. I like to imagine it as being a submarine commander, you don't want to do anything before you're completely sure of what you're doing and what's happening around you before you actually start shooting.

However, for Ubers, I've found myself doing nothing but either sitting and waiting for SA to gain before raping the boss, or just using superior range and damage to kill it.



Omg its so hard! It not like as a seer I have to do that x100 for every AI I encounter in a DG that can one shot me.
Author:  CookieMonsta [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
shawn_mccall wrote:
Sniper requires no skill



:'(
Author:  Lolwut? [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
blacker2359 wrote:

Omg its so hard! It not like as a seer I have to do that x100 for every AI I encounter in a DG that can one shot me.


Thus why seer is considered the most difficult class?
Author:  blacker2359 [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
Lolwut? wrote:
blacker2359 wrote:

Omg its so hard! It not like as a seer I have to do that x100 for every AI I encounter in a DG that can one shot me.


Thus why seer is considered the most difficult class?


Ironically, I fucking SUCK at playing a sniper ;P
Author:  Lolwut? [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
blacker2359 wrote:
Lolwut? wrote:
blacker2359 wrote:

Omg its so hard! It not like as a seer I have to do that x100 for every AI I encounter in a DG that can one shot me.


Thus why seer is considered the most difficult class?


Ironically, I fucking SUCK at playing a sniper ;P


:lol:

And I'd imagine I'd suck so much at seer that I'm not even going to try.
Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: sniper guide
You guys fail. I beat you at both.
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