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Post Alt Leveling(As Engineer)... Is Tricky.
1. Materials.

-Pax Celestica
--5 Blue Beta Drones
--2 Offensive Ops Aptitude Augs
--1 Defensive Ops Aptitude Aug

Paxian Selenogica
--5 Blue Gamma Drones
--5 DWO Drones
--5 Mzungu Mining Defenders
--5 Lipo Drones
--2 Offensive Ops Prowess Augs
--1 General Ops Prowess Aug
--1 Defensive Ops Prowess Aug

Non-Ship Specific Gear
-Synergy Pack(+)
-Bule Real Keeper
-Solar Panel III(5 on Celestica, 7 on Selen)
-Sost Radar/Reaveler
-Paxian Excelsior Explorer
-Combined Capacitor

2. Misc Neccessities.

-Shield Monkey(able to clear spawn in copper)
or
-Engineer(needs to be teamed and have charges)

3. Phase One: Initial Leveling.

-Level a character to 75 by other means than this guide(I suggest Zobitan slaves).

4. Phase Two: Preparation.

-After the character is lvl 75 get it Piloting 12, Support 10, Engineer 10, Drone Mastery 10(if its needed for Ops augs, I cba to check). After this focus on cores in this order: Electrical Engineering, Shielding, Engine, Equipment, Radar, after these are all at 10 you need to pour all SP into Drone Mastery(no other class subskills). Gear and augment the Celestica.

5. Phase Three: 75 - 200.

-At this point you are ready for Copper 1. Take the Healer(Shield Monk or Engineer) into Copper 1 and clear spawn, now bring in the Character who is leveling and drop the Blue Beta Drones(aggro them as well) to the east of the entrance(outside firing range of the copper drone). Next, park the character on the gate to Copper 2(AI shouldn't bother it), scoop and redeploy occasionally.

-Once you hit level 100 move to Copper 2 with the same strategy(except drones go south of entrance to Copper 2).

6. Phase Four: 250 - 350.

-Once you reach level 250 go grab Piloting 17, boost your cores, prep the Selenogica, and drop as much SP as you can possibly spare into Drone Mastery. After that get back to Copper, you're going to Copper 3 this time. Once you get into Copper 3 repeat the same strategy as the last few levels. You'll hit 350 without any real input effort.

7. Phase Five: 350+.

-Copper 5 sucks for leveling, the span is way too slow. So at this point you throw the Gamma drones into storage for the next alt, now is the time to break out the Lipos, Mzungu Mining Defenders, and DWO Drones. At this point you begin actively leveling in DGs on Basils, Jujuso'Qis, and Rosemaries until lvl 800.

AFTERNOTES:

I. Not intended for or geared toward new players.
II. From the time you first enter copper, you can hit level 800 in approximately a day provided you have a good source of the afore mentioned DG AI.
III. In case you're brain dead; Blue Beta Drones on Celestica, Blue Gammas on Selen, 2 Off 1 Def Ops Apt on Celestica. 2 Off 1 Gen 1 Def Ops Prow on Selenogica.



Enjoy.

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Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:35 pm
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Post Re: Alt Leveling(As Engineer).
Someone fucking post, and give me the attention I so desparately seek.

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All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes.

thats because most graphic designers are squares :mrgreen:

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Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:58 am
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Post Re: Alt Leveling(As Engineer).
shawn_mccall wrote:
Someone fucking post, and give me the attention I so desparately seek.


It's decent and more geared towards people that have a main/have some cash. I always found that the selen was a waste of money since the t20 astro costs bout the same amount, that's why i chose for the shrimp wich works fine aswell and costs way less. btw why blue beta/gamma drones? I never used them before.. do they work well? and some acmes on the selen would work well i guess. also i wouldn't recommend lvling in DGs with basils/MF basils since they are a pain in the ass to kill (imo) and there are AI wich are easier and give more xp, but overall a very nice guide :D

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Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:09 am
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shawn_mccall wrote:
Someone fucking post, and give me the attention I so desparately seek.


It's decent and more geared towards people that have a main/have some cash. I always found that the selen was a waste of money since the t20 astro costs bout the same amount, that's why i chose for the shrimp wich works fine aswell and costs way less. btw why blue beta/gamma drones? I never used them before.. do they work well? and some acmes on the selen would work well i guess. also i wouldn't recommend lvling in DGs with basils/MF basils since they are a pain in the ass to kill (imo) and there are AI wich are easier and give more xp, but overall a very nice guide :D


Beta and Gamma drones fully power their energy pulses, inaddition to this they have spectacular DPS and the size of the spawns in copper makes them extremely energy efficient.

As for the Basils, Jujuso'qis, and Rosemary: because you have a monk and those are very common you need not worry about difficulty to kill as with a monk it makes you nearly invulnerable and you can quickly kill spawn and move onto new DGs/Levels to continue leveling.

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thats because most graphic designers are squares :mrgreen:

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Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:26 am
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you should write that you need a shm for everything in this guide then :P

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Whew, Alt Leveling (As Engineer) is tricky!!

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Whew, Alt Leveling (As Engineer) is tricky!!



Thank you for this threads new name, kind sir.

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thats because most graphic designers are squares :mrgreen:

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Post Re: Alt Leveling(As Engineer)... Is Tricky.
Wait what whhatt wuuuuuurttt? Wut... O.O Lvl 800 in a day? :O LEMME AT THIS GUIDE


Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:20 am
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Post Re: Alt Leveling(As Engineer)... Is Tricky.
btw with the new everlasting aug (apt and prowess are coming ingame later iirc?) it will be easier for drones to power their weps and as far as i know ares drones are better then blue gammas so when the EL apt and prows are ingame ares drones would work better then gammas :D

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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:32 am
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playerboy345 wrote:
btw with the new everlasting aug (apt and prowess are coming ingame later iirc?) it will be easier for drones to power their weps and as far as i know ares drones are better then blue gammas so when the EL apt and prows are ingame ares drones would work better then gammas :D


I tried Ares Drones but they couldn't power and the torp on them tracks less than the pulse on Blue drones so they were horribly inefficient. On average it took me 2-3(ish) minutes to clear Copper 3 with Ares, when I laid Blue Gammas spawn would go down much faster, often in under a minute due to the RoF and tracking being far higher.

This is also viable in Copper 5 if you do not mind waiting 10 minutes a spawn.

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thats because most graphic designers are squares :mrgreen:

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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:39 am
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Post Re: Alt Leveling(As Engineer)... Is Tricky.
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playerboy345 wrote:
btw with the new everlasting aug (apt and prowess are coming ingame later iirc?) it will be easier for drones to power their weps and as far as i know ares drones are better then blue gammas so when the EL apt and prows are ingame ares drones would work better then gammas :D


I tried Ares Drones but they couldn't power and the torp on them tracks less than the pulse on Blue drones so they were horribly inefficient. On average it took me 2-3(ish) minutes to clear Copper 3 with Ares, when I laid Blue Gammas spawn would go down much faster, often in under a minute due to the RoF and tracking being far higher.

This is also viable in Copper 5 if you do not mind waiting 10 minutes a spawn.


as I said they will be more useful when the lower tech EL ops augs are ingame.

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Edit: Drone Ops Augs now only require 5 in class skills. This is now viable from a far lower lvl.

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thats because most graphic designers are squares :mrgreen:

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Ares drones make me ragequit.

Ridiculous elec usage to lay
Shit tracking with torps
Shit range with Pulsification
Shit DPS with ethreal laser


Blue Gamma drones are better.

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Ares drones make me ragequit.

Ridiculous elec usage to lay
Shit tracking with torps
Shit range with Pulsification
Shit DPS with ethreal laser


Blue Gamma drones are better.


That was the point. Blue Gamma Drones are drops, which SHOULD be better than the ai station drones.

Imagine if the Titan Drone did more dps to the bana queen than an AInferno...after you bought 12 of the latter. Unfair, right?

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Lolwut? wrote:
Ares drones make me ragequit.

Ridiculous elec usage to lay
Shit tracking with torps
Shit range with Pulsification
Shit DPS with ethreal laser


Blue Gamma drones are better.


That was the point. Blue Gamma Drones are drops, which SHOULD be better than the ai station drones.

Imagine if the Titan Drone did more dps to the bana queen than an AInferno...after you bought 12 of the latter. Unfair, right?



That's ragequitworthy material right there.

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