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Author:  Aki Ross [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Armada Ship Inbuilts

I am suggesting, Each Armada ship to get it's own inbuilt deivice native to it's origin.


Example.
Zebra: Does Zebra hoove's torpedo causing XXXX dps and XXXX charge time XXXX

panther does a panther paw ... well you get the idea right ?

Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

The Serengeti ships are all quite powerful, and they all have an inbuilt (bar Rhino, which got extra speed). I don't really feel that they need anything else to make them more powerful, or more shiny. (Where shiny = useless, but looks cool)

Author:  Aki Ross [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

in comparison to the tech 21 ships,i do not think so. but if you would like we can compare data?

Author:  playerboy345 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:26 am ]
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This might be BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING T21?!?

Author:  Aki Ross [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

playerboy345 wrote:
This might be BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING T21?!?

the point i'm trying to give is that , theres a huge difference between t21 and t20


where as you have the nimble ladder, of climbing ; from a zebucart - a dreadnaught.

i'm suggesting, those who don't want tech 21 stuff should be allowed to have there fun with tech 20 stuff.

Author:  playerboy345 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

Aki Ross wrote:
playerboy345 wrote:
This might be BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING T21?!?

the point i'm trying to give is that , theres a huge difference between t21 amd t20


whereas you have the nimble ladder, of climbing from a zebucart - a dreadnaught.

im suggesting, those who dont want tech 21 stuff should be allowed to have there fun with tech 20 stuff.


They can have their fun with it right now, what you are wanting is t20 to be as powerful as t21 because you don't have the resources to get t21 skills/gear/ships.
This is why lilith should be IP banned.

Author:  foffy123 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

If you make t20 more powerful, you simply make t21 an 'alternate' end-game tier. It should stay the way it is, since t20 is no longer the best. If you want end-game, you go for t21.

Author:  Predator1356 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

Aki Ross wrote:
playerboy345 wrote:
This might be BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING T21?!?

the point i'm trying to give is that , theres a huge difference between t21 and t20


where as you have the nimble ladder, of climbing ; from a zebucart - a dreadnaught.

i'm suggesting, those who don't want tech 21 stuff should be allowed to have there fun with tech 20 stuff.



is that a secret way of suggesting they beef ur panther cause 100% of the playerbase doesnt like u and u cant get on a team that will build u an AWC?

Author:  anilv [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

Let's see, with a squad of T20 ships you can do all the content in this game. Barring Olympus and Kidd, you can do all content with 3-4 T20 ships. What exactly is the problem?

Author:  zhuang281 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

Aki Ross wrote:
playerboy345 wrote:
This might be BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING T21?!?

the point i'm trying to give is that , theres a huge difference between t21 and t20
........
i'm suggesting, those who don't want tech 21 stuff should be allowed to have there fun with tech 20 stuff.

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A typical UZ ship takes 15-20b to make.

A typical Oly ship takes first the research module. This in terms of zeus, takes about 2k plat? So thats 80-100b. Then we have the BP which is rare and can be bought for 50-150b each. Then we get to the T21 modules which are worth 5-8b per. This is not even taking into account the "Ship commods" which are alot rarer then their T20 counterparts.

Do you now see why there is a "huge" difference between T21 and T20?

Addressing your ridiculous second point. You can have your fun yes, by doing ubers designed for a t20 ship. Unless you want to beef zebucarts all the way to T20 power so that Level 2's who don't want better ships can have their fun as well.

And yes, as Enkelin said, all ubers can be done well by a T20 squad.

Author:  seanla4350 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

If a typical UZ ship is 15-20b to make, then a typical Olympus ship is 40-50b to make, and nothing more. The gaps aren't that big.

Author:  anilv [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

seanla4350 wrote:
If a typical UZ ship is 15-20b to make, then a typical Olympus ship is 40-50b to make, and nothing more. The gaps aren't that big.


So, twice the cost and roughly half as big a squad required in Olympus. Seems fine to me.

Author:  zhuang281 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

seanla4350 wrote:
If a typical UZ ship is 15-20b to make, then a typical Olympus ship is 40-50b to make, and nothing more. The gaps aren't that big.



An UZ Bp..say Lion BP is worth about 1-2b. A HM/AWC/ZT/PW Bp is worth 50-150b.

Of course i agree that if i just bought the materials stated on the BP, it would be around 50b. This however, does not paint the larger picture of what else is required.

Author:  seanla4350 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

zhuang281 wrote:
seanla4350 wrote:
If a typical UZ ship is 15-20b to make, then a typical Olympus ship is 40-50b to make, and nothing more. The gaps aren't that big.



An UZ Bp..say Lion BP is worth about 1-2b. A HM/AWC/ZT/PW Bp is worth 50-150b.

Of course i agree that if i just bought the materials stated on the BP, it would be around 50b. This however, does not paint the larger picture of what else is required.


The build cost on an average UZ ship is 10-20b depending on what you have stored away of build commodities. The build cost on average for an Olympus ship is 40-50b, depending on the same.

But yes, if you are going to buy an UZ ship, then you are looking at paying 30-45b. If you are going to buy an Olympus ship, then you are looking at paying 200-300b.

So if you think you are painting a large picture by saying that UZ ships are 15-20b to make and that Olympus ships are 300b+ to make, then I would like to buy some of your paint-art so I can re-paint it.

Author:  s_m_w [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Armada Ship Inbuilts

Blue Dwarf wrote:
The Serengeti ships are all quite powerful, and they all have an inbuilt (bar Rhino, which got extra speed). I don't really feel that they need anything else to make them more powerful, or more shiny. (Where shiny = useless, but looks cool)


What he said.

I feel like the cost/power ratio on t21 ships is ok.

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