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Author:  TranquilityX [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Nihilite Base Positioning

I would like to request that the base[spacebase] is moved away from the drones as it is almost impossible for big ships to reach without getting demoralized by em. It is much closer this uni than it ever really has been.

Author:  paxiprime [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

It has always been this way! You just need to have skill and come at the base from an angle. or just do what everyone else does and aug a ship for stealth :D Then buy a tatch at the base and have someone bring you prom. While you tractor and scoop :)


- Paxx

Author:  anilv [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

The only thing that's funky with Nihilite this uni is that the two wormholes are really close together.

Author:  paxiprime [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:05 am ]
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hmm, maybe its just an illusion since we can zoom out farther.

- Paxx

Author:  JeffL [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

Yeah, the placement of the base has not changed at all. How are people getting though there these days, btw?

Author:  Bonecrusher [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:53 am ]
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No problem in my App Ward+

Author:  anilv [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

JeffL wrote:
Yeah, the placement of the base has not changed at all. How are people getting though there these days, btw?


All of my travel ships go at least 400 speed, which seems to be enough to blaze right through.

Author:  Visorak [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

The velocity-challenged can use envelopments to tank the shots, iirc.

Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:07 pm ]
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Visorak wrote:
The velocity-challenged can use envelopments to tank the shots, iirc.


AI Nihilite drones have an ethereal tag applied to their weapons. Capping them removes the tag.

The drones are still vulnerable to people using stealth AND speed to get in, or pure seer stealth(nothing else cuts it for pure stealth), or dying in your ship on the gate and getting back in and warping during the grace time.

Author:  JeffL [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

I tried to get a month ago or so, and couldn't with either envelopments or ink bombs, which where the tried and true methods of yesteryear. I think it probably needs some tweaking. Maybe make the lasers non-ethereal, but put the drones up on little moons so they can shoot down on you.

Author:  anilv [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

It's not hard to get in using the Wingship IV super special secondary. You just need to make sure you're inside the envelopment. I'd lobby against any tweaking of the system, honestly.

Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:27 pm ]
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Maybe the Nihilites treat the real envelopment's as something they can shoot through? While SSS Envels are treated like the original unbugged ones.

Author:  Visorak [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:54 pm ]
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Battlecruiser23 wrote:
Maybe the Nihilites treat the real envelopment's as something they can shoot through? While SSS Envels are treated like the original unbugged ones.
This raises a few questions about the "ethereal tag" on weapons.

Author:  anilv [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nihilite Base Positioning

I guess some server optimizations have made it harder to blaze in there. I couldn't do it at 534 speed in an izer.

Author:  a jedi master [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:27 pm ]
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My travel ward goes 454 and I couldn't speed through :-/

I eventually got in by suiciding over the wormhole then warping as soon as I enter stasis. I cheated

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