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| Author: | creamsoda [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | [Gameplay] Increase ship limit for P2P |
Increase ship limit for P2P. 25 is too low. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
How the fuck do you need even 25? You're a Speed Demon. Use higher tech slaves if you don't like the fact Helgas go too slow. |
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| Author: | kanescreed [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
i need more then 25. How the fuck do u not need more then 25 church. tisk tisk |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
I have ~8 Thatches, 1 Sphere, 1 Rhino, 1 Pax, 1 Ward, 1 Vulture, 1 Celestica, and 5 Pax Xmas Slaves on my engineer. I have 4 Thatches on each of my other 3 main chars, their combat ships, and two pairs of FC EFBC slaves. Then there's some Hotrod+'s, EFF's and Enforcers that are used for slaves. Totals up to be around 15 ships per non engineer alt. This is a developed account, too. |
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| Author: | kanescreed [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
well i got 5 SingSphere and i need more but i have other ships also so no room.. |
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| Author: | Chaosking3 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
Indeed, all of my high end well used chars are overflowing. |
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| Author: | creamsoda [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
Max235 wrote: How the fuck do you need even 25? You're a Speed Demon. Use higher tech slaves if you don't like the fact Helgas go too slow. 9 pax combat slaves + 3 EF ships, + 3 wing 4 + spearhead + thatch 17. Then that leaves only 8 slots for ships for trade slaving and base construction. Way too limited. And I'm in process of switching to DM so it's even more of a pain in the ass. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
creamsoda wrote: 9 pax combat slaves Thats the problem. Unless you're doing a very specific setup(9 BST's MFing LB's), the "more is less(to lose when one of them dies)" is in general a bad idea. Starting out, it adds great amounts of firepower per slave. But then it starts to be less efficient. By level 300, if you're still wanting to be FC(or Monk for that matter), it is far more efficient to use less slaves, focusing on 2 or 3 large slaves instead of 8 to 9 small slaves. Yes, if a slave dies thats a chunk of DPS gone with it. But it's far less to manage in battle, as well as in the AI base. You don't have to evenly distribute to 10 total ships; you have 4 tops. In battle, less slaves means more attention to individual micro-battles, instead of "hope everything lives" situations. |
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| Author: | Visorak [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
So you're saying that because this one guy doesn't really need more slots that no one else does either? |
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| Author: | Mail [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
There should be an increase in P2P, decrease in F2P, or both. Just another incentive to go P2P? Timmeh |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
Visorak wrote: So you're saying that because this one guy doesn't really need more slots that no one else does either? The reason behind having 25 ships is that the server has to keep track of them all, regardless of them being docked or flying around. Player ships eat up resources at like 100-1000 to 1 compared to AI iirc. |
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| Author: | Visorak [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
That was the excuse several years ago. The server is much faster now. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
Visorak wrote: That was the excuse several years ago. The server is much faster now. Maybe there could be an increase then, but as I've said, and what the admins have done, is that both myself and them seem to hate swarms. For them it was nerfing swarms. I can't nerf. Otherwise it'd have been a max of 4 slaves. |
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| Author: | zhuang281 [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
Implement as new credit sink please. Starting at 500m and doubling with each new slot. |
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| Author: | IrishKnight [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Increase ship limit for P2P |
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